In today’s episode we welcome back Josh Spurlock to the podcast. In part two of our interview, we explore how to humanize the role of pastor and how a leader can get/stay healthy as they begin to dream, strategize, and grow again.
Here are the show notes:
- Josh, you often talk about humanizing the role of pastor. What does that mean, and how does a leader take practical steps to accomplish that?
- We have to pay attention to pain. Get curious about what the pain might be alerting you to.
- Becoming okay with unanswered questions.
- Understand the healthy use of self-disclosure vs. venting.
- Will it benefit the audience? Or is this self-disclosure benefitting me only?
- Only share pieces publicly that you’ve done some work on privately with your counselor or close friends first.
- Don’t invite people into your anger and/or confusion.
- How does a leader get more comfortable with disappointing people’s expectations?
- Jesus is a great example to follow – He disappointed a lot of people.
- Jesus tried to let those closest to Him know that in some ways, He wouldn’t meet their expectations.
- Process the idea with those closest to you who are safe.
- Stop pretending it doesn’t bother us when we disappoint people. It can hurt and be scary.
- During the past two years we’ve been working with pastors to stay healthy while navigating a pandemic. How do we help them get/stay healthy as they begin to dream, strategize, and see growth again?
- We need a calendar for our self-care and sabbath.
- Be as intentional with planning our days off and rest, as we are with planning our work.
- Are there people holding me accountable calendar-wise?
- Think more deeply about rest.
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